Backstory
'Organized', that is, as opposed to your most inner beliefs. (That's if the reader has any, and I'm not saying that tongue & cheek. Remember there are many people, including scientists, who believe in 'Nothing', so I guess that belief merits respect too (?) I admit though that I always crack a smile when I hear renowned quantum phyicist Stephen Hawking tell the world that he believes that 'Nothing' is actually what created all that exists, did exist or will exist in the Universe. Read his atheistic opus 'The Grand Design' -presumably his, not God's.)
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ba_miracle says,
I found god when I gave up on religion.Religion is beautiful when we are not using against each other.
I don’t think god cares whether we believe in god or not.
Doesn’t it most often seem as though man keeps trying to bring the ineffable into its own understanding and likeness? We create a god in our image and find a sliver of superiority in “knowing” better than another person. Our ego gets a boost when another person co-signs our belief system.
I found god when I gave up on religion.
Religion is beautiful when we are not using against each other.
I don’t think god cares whether we believe in god or not.
Doesn’t it most often seem as though man keeps trying to bring the ineffable into its own understanding and likeness? We create a god in our image and find a sliver of superiority in “knowing” better than another person. Our ego gets a boost when another person co-signs our belief system.
Stephen Hawking said that God was not necessary to “start” the universe.
The universe... as far as most scientists theorize existed in that “tiny little spot”
and did not burst forth from nothingness. Another theory is that matter can not be destroyed; only converted. I hear Leonard Susskind say that information is never lost...that bent my mind (and still does).
On the other hand, our timeline is only 13 billion (ish) years old. Kind of young when compared to forever.
ba_miracle says,
That's what I get for spell-checking before postingba_miracle says,
Ohhh all the concepts I left out that makes those statements wrong.How about this...
Hawking admitted to being mistaken regarding black holes...it could happen again.
Dhani says,
You have not read thoroughly Hawking's theory on the Creation of the Universe. So now you believe that a 'tiny little spot' is the Source of all that was, is & will be in this grand & mysterious Universe? (tee-hee).ba_miracle says,
I don’t believe much of anything except that when it comes to the universe and our current existence...many possibilities exist. I am not attached to one but am detached from many.We don’t know, we strive to know and us “standard issue humans” rely on sources to base opinions on.
All the brilliant minds in physics so far have not worked out one perfect mathematical answer to everything or even a complete standard model? When that happens it won’t answer the question of god...then us believers will insist that he is the mathematical programmer and that we have merely discovered the code.
As I barely posses a high school diploma (from continuation school),
my beliefs and ideas come from scientists who are capable of spoon-feeding complex theories to us...the masses who care enough to listen or read on this topic.
I call them “Rock-star Physicists/Philosophers” or “Super-star cosmologists” and if there were trading cards for those scientists (like baseball trading cards), Hawking would be certainly be in the “Topps” with Susskind, Einstein, Carl Sagan, Michio Kaku and so many others.
Hawking has theories not absolute truths and his theories have evolved. (I’m still reading a brief history of time in stolen moments at Barnes and Nobles)
I’ll believe what I’ll allow someone to convince me is truth, just like every other human and I have been intimately exposed to many religions and quite a few of them had been insisted upon me.
Could god be that infinite point of being who burst forth in love to create everything?
Could it be that the universe expands and contracts continually?
That we are the dream of a god or the other way around?
Do we exist in a mechanical universe and if so does that rule out spirituality?
Was this universe created by “bumping” into a string “multiverse”.
Are we entangled with everything or anything?
Are we one someone else’s microscope slide?
Could everything be governed by natural laws and my being snuffed upon death?
Do we stunt ourselves in thinking that nothing exists beyond the edge of our universe in the same way our ancestors thought the world was flat or some “snow-globe world”?
Your “Tee hee” carries the same dogmatic consternation that people may attach to your belief system. Although you did not tear apart my horribly constructed response and I appreciate that.(it would have been too much work).
This is a funny link regarding the Higgs-Boson. I hope you get a kick out of it.
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-higgs-boson-20120704,0,6845662.story
MsKillie says,
Church always made me uncomfortable, even as a child. I knew that true goodness wouldn't exist in such a manner- forcing people to fork over their money (our church got rude when our weekly envelopes weren't turned in), making fun of kids (ie me) who didn't know all the scriptures in CCD, all that standing up and sitting down BS, the fire and wrath seems completley ridiculous (who teaches how to be good with threats????), and the "opps I'm sorry I did that, forgive me" for anything we do is also BS in my opinion. Then I attended a tradtional Catholic wedding and heard the wife promise to be her man's lifelong servant- the priest ranted on about it for about 10 minutes, it was so sexist. My mom was holding my scrawny preteen body down on the pew so I wouldn't jump up in protest. She kept telling me, "it's okay hun, you never ever have to do that". And I never will.Dhani says,
For scientists the 'question of God' will NEVER be answered because the researchers will never be able to bottle 'SPIRIT'....Dhani says,
MIRACLE: I really appreciate you're putting so much input into this -and you hit the nail on the head & answered the 'quetsion' for me quite eloquently (although it probably wasn't your intention!) with your following 'gem':'Could God be that infinite point of being Who burst forth in Love to create everything?'
Yes, Miracle -yes, yes, yes!